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Alexander Guthrie Stewart
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 Posted: Wed May 26th, 2010 02:56 pm
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Whilst digging through the internet for original texts, I found this:

[url=http://www.olms.com/pcgi/a.cgi?ausgabe=index&T=1274898518593{haupt_olms_int=http://www.olms.com/artikel_6600.ahtml?T=1274898518593}]http://www.olms.com/pcgi/a.cgi?ausgabe=index&T=1274898518593{haupt_olms_int=http://www.olms.com/artikel_6600.ahtml?T=1274898518593}[/url]

It seems a company called Olms in Germany are reprinting the aforemention book.  I'm not sure i could afford the subscription price of €828, or full price of €1068.  I wonder how long it will take them to produce it?

You can also find the occaisional reprint of Theatrum chemicum Britannicum and Manget, but they seem quite expensive. 

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 Posted: Wed May 26th, 2010 03:03 pm
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Hi Alexander,
You may have a look at my electronic edition here:

http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/doccontent?id=11637&dirids=1

There are also copies on BooksGoogle and in the Dresden Digital Library.

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 Posted: Wed May 26th, 2010 03:37 pm
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart wrote:
Whilst digging through the internet for original texts, I found this:




Here are some collections of links to digitized original texts:

http://www.philological.bham.ac.uk/bibliography/index.htm

http://www.dokumentationszentrum.de/
(and onward links at bottom of that page)

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 Posted: Wed May 26th, 2010 04:53 pm
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Thank you.  So your Rafal Prinke then.

I am now snowed under with possible documents, will you excuse me if I go and gibber in a corner?

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 Posted: Thu May 27th, 2010 01:36 am
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The Georg Olms Verlag does good work, but the ad does not inspire confidence. The dates should be 1613-61 (not 1631-61), and Lazarus Zetzner only issued four of the six volumes. I haven't read anything by T. Gregory, who seems to write mainly in Italian. But I suspect one might do better with a used copy of the 1659-61 edition that was published by the Botega d'Erasmo in 1981.

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The Georg Olms Verlag does good work, but the ad does not inspire confidence. The dates should be 1613-61 (not 1631-61), and Lazarus Zetzner only issued four of the six volumes. I haven't read anything by T. Gregory, who seems to write mainly in Italian. But I suspect one might do better with a used copy of the 1659-61 edition that was published by the Botega d'Erasmo in 1981.

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 Posted: Thu May 27th, 2010 05:40 am
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Alexander Guthrie Stewart wrote:
Thank you.  So your Rafal Prinke then.

I am now snowed under with possible documents, will you excuse me if I go and gibber in a corner?


Awww come on, Adam assures me that only a tiny fraction of alchemical texts are actually on the web, so when you've finished with those you've still got the Vatican Cellars and the uncatalogued castle libraries in Hungary, Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Latvia, Croatia...... :P

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 Posted: Thu May 27th, 2010 12:21 pm
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I found out a couple of weeks ago that they are putting Ambix online just now, with maybe half the issues available.  So there's a lot of reading to catch up on, and a sneaking feeling that something must have been done on some of these topics since then, but where to find it?

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 Posted: Thu May 27th, 2010 01:46 pm
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Apologies for the duplicated reply earlier. Actually, the inclusive date for the Theatrum Chemicum should really be 1602-1661. Lazarus Zetzner issued the first three volumes in 1602, and reissued them with a new fourth volume in 1613. He died in 1616, but his son Eberhard took over the business and issued a fifth volume in 1622. Then after Eberhard's death, his son took over the business, reissuing volumes 1-4 in 1659, volume 5 in 1660, and a new sixth volume in 1661. It appears that T. Gregory has some explaining to do in his preface. But the volumes being copied apparently should have the dates 1613, 1622, and 1661. ¶ Reviewing the Botega d'Erasmo reprint of the 1659-1661 printing, the late Allen Debus remarked that the text is larger and the printing better than the original.

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 Posted: Thu May 27th, 2010 02:10 pm
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According to the email I received on May 19, this is now complete:
'The digitisation of the back issues of Ambix from Volume 1 (1937) is now complete and they are available free to members to read or download from the IngentaConnect website. Access to the back issues is via the ‘Member Services’ page on the Society’s website at http://www.ambix.org. This page is only available to members and access to it from the Home Page is via a username and password generated by the Society'

Join - very good value at £27 for 2010.

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Thank you for the information, Alan. As a lapsed member, I would appreciate any information you could post about the types of searches, downloads, and printouts available online -- or a link to a page explaining that.

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Alan Pritchard wrote: According to the email I received on May 19, this is now complete:
'The digitisation of the back issues of Ambix from Volume 1 (1937) is now complete and they are available free to members to read or download from the IngentaConnect website. Access to the back issues is via the ‘Member Services’ page on the Society’s website at http://www.ambix.org. This page is only available to members and access to it from the Home Page is via a username and password generated by the Society'

Join - very good value at £27 for 2010.


I really should, just havn't gotten round to it yet.  The problem online is that I can often only see volume 3, or two, or indeed just one, despite there clearly being other volumes published that year.  See for example 1973, 74 and 75.  I'm sure they've put more up even in the last few weeks since i discovered it, which would explain why paging through some of them led to randomly to other papers of interest. 

 

Tom, you may be able to see this page:

http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/maney/amb;jsessionid=3w6dirkl8m4o9.alexandra 

which might help.

Otherwise the main Ambix page is at:

http://www.ambix.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=17&Itemid=17

The online stuff is basically key word searchable, it has worked ok so far, and downloadable as a pdf. 

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 Posted: Thu May 27th, 2010 02:47 pm
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This is the main Ambix page at the publishers:
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/maney/amb

You can see all 137 issues back to May 1937. Click on an issue - get to contents. Click on an article - get bibliographic details (sometimes with an abstract). At this point if you are a member & have logged in via SHAC site, you see "You have access to the full text electronic article", otherwise you have to pay for access.

Searching is quite good & covers the whole of the articles (or can be restricted to just title).


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